The Lord of the Rings, If Warner Bros Made It in the 1930s-40s

15 Oct

So, I’ve always liked to kick around the idea of what a Lord of the Rings would have looked like if a studio like Warner Bros. had dedicated all their resources (and perhaps resources of other studios) to making a version during the height of the studio era, discounting the fact that J.R.R. Tolkien’s epic fantasy was not published until the 1950s. Admittedly, I have not solved all considerations. How would they have portrayed orcs? What about Gollum? And the hobbits? The technology was not there, but it is still fun to speculate.

I have also still not solved all casting conundrums and would like to invite other opinions! Since studio productions of the 1930s and ’40s were always the product of multiple voices and opinions, it seems appropriate.

But rather than present a comprehensive rubric, I would like to offer thoughts for consideration. Actors, composer, make-up artist, production code considerations.


I don’t think there is any doubt that Warner Bros. would have cast their leading male star as Aragorn: Errol Flynn.

When I taught a class to high school students on the early history of American cinema, I was told that Errol Flynn in The Adventures of Robin Hood looked like Link. I always thought of Link as an elf, so perhaps Errol Flynn would have made a better Legolas, who is far merrier in the book than he is in the movies, but there is no way Warner Bros. would have given him anything less than the all-important role of the king.

I’m also inclined to think that any studio era production of LOTR would, like the Peter Jackson films, have given Arwen a bigger role. With that in mind, it seems fitting that Arwen should be played by none other than Olivia de Havilland, who would have been an excellent elf.

For Gandalf, I’m partial to the casting of Claude Rains. He’s brilliant in almost anything, but as Gandalf,  he would have brought a wry wit and wisdom – and a lovely voice – that would have been ideal, especially since Gandalf has to carry the heavy lifting of cinematic plot exposition.

Alan Hale might possibly have been cast as Gimli, though the Gimli of the book is far more dignified than in the movies. Though I’m also tickled by the idea of casting Edward G. Robinson, as well. And Patric Knowles for Legolas, perhaps?

Boris Karloff as the Witch King, hands down. And for the important role of Eowyn, quite possibly Bette Davis. I could see her riding her horse, taking on Boris Karloff and raging against being trapped in a cage. And falling in love with Errol Flynn.

How about Sir Cedric Hardwicke for Saruman? And Vincent Price needs to be in the film somehow. Maybe as Wormtongue? John Garfield was a star and would need a role, but I’m a bit stumped on that one. Any thoughts? Also, if James Cagney can appear in a Shakespeare play as Bottom, then surely he could appear in LOTR as somebody…even a hobbit! Okay, so maybe not.

Lionel Atwill should also undoubtedly have a role…perhaps as Elrond. We need a Galadriel, too. Hmm…

Basil Rathbone likewise deserves a role, possibly even a heroic role. Like Boromir or Eomer, though I’m leaning towards Boromir. It strikes me, though, that he could have played the stern Strider who morphs into a king, but it’s doubtful he would have been given the part.


Max Steiner was Warner Bros. most prolific composer of the era and scored over 300 film scores, which boggles the mind. He scored King KongGone With the Wind, CasablancaThe Treasure of the Sierra MadreThe Big Sleep, and The Searchers. He clearly had the epic score down pat.

Costuming and Makeup

In all probability, Warner Bros. would need the experience of Universal Studio’s Jack Pierce, who designed the make-up for Boris Karloff’s Frankenstein monster and Lon Chaney Jr’s Wolf Man. This reminds me that Lon Chaney Jr. should surely have a role in the film, as well. Maybe he could play an orc leader or Uruk-hai? Or Gollum. He actually might be the best bet for Gollum and would certainly bring pathos to the role. Though Bela Lugosi could handle Gollum, as well.

Studio era Hollywood didn’t have a track record with fantasy, so it’s possible that a Lord of the Rings would look more like a medieval horror movie. And actually, we can learn a lot about how a studio era LOTR might have been handled by examining Universal Studios films. The make-up in The Wolf Man was designed not too look realistic. There was concern that it would be too frightening, which means that in all probability the makeup for the orcs would have been muted.

The costumes (or at least the gowns) could be designed by Vera West, who specialized in costuming for Universal’s horror movies: The Bride of FrankensteinThe Wolf Man, various Mummy movies, Dracula. But Walter Plunkett also designed a lot of period garb, most notably for Gone With the Wind, but also The Hunchback of Notre DameThe Three Musketeers, and Singin in the Rain. Perhaps they could design together.

I suspect that for the monsters – like the Balrog – Warner Bros, would also have need the assistance of stop motion animator Willis O’Brien, of King Kong fame.


Probably Michael Curtiz. He established his bone fides for epics and large crowds with the 1928 silent/talkie hybrid Noah’s Ark. He also directed many of Errol Flynn’s best films, including The Adventures of Robin Hood.

Motion Picture Production Code

On the whole, I think there is not much in LOTR that the Breen Office would have objected to, except excessive violence and gruesomeness. The gruesomeness in particular would have been in relation to the orcs and Uruk-hai. This means the battle scenes, along with the makeup, would have been far less intense, less bloody, more on the line of the battle at the end of The Adventures of Robin Hood. With Universal Horror monsters as the villains.

An adventure/horror film! Which means the movie might end up more lighthearted, more in the spirit of The Hobbit. Though it might depend on whether they took horror or adventure as their model.

What do you think?

This has been my contribution to “the Great Breening Blogathon,” hosted by Pure Entertainment Preservation Society. For more posts on this topic, be sure to check out their site, here.


Posted by on October 15, 2017 in Movies


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30 responses to “The Lord of the Rings, If Warner Bros Made It in the 1930s-40s

  1. dbmoviesblog

    October 15, 2017 at 4:20 pm

    Fascinating! I too think that Errol would have made a perfect Legolas. I somehow picture him more in this role rather than in the role of Aragorn, and it is not just because of the bow.

    Liked by 1 person

  2. cottagecaretakersyahoocom

    October 15, 2017 at 10:20 pm

    Thank you for submitting this wonderful article. Here is the link to the roster on which I included it: Thank you for participating.

    Yours Hopefully,

    TIffany Brannan

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  3. maddylovesherclassicfilms

    October 16, 2017 at 3:28 am

    I love this so much. I’m digging your cast choices. May I suggest Greta Garbo for Galadriel and William Bendix for Gimli.

    If you type in Lord of the Rings Movie 1940 on YouTube, someone has made an hysterical video showing this film as a 40’s gangster flick, with Humphrey Bogart as Frodo and directed by Howard Hawks. You have to watch it! 🙂

    Liked by 2 people

    • christinawehner

      October 16, 2017 at 11:57 am

      Wow, that does sound hilarious! Thanks for sharing!

      Greta Garbo as Galadriel is inspired! I would definitely believe characters like Gimli (as William Bendix) falling all over themselves over her. 🙂

      Liked by 1 person

    • Silver Screenings

      October 16, 2017 at 2:59 pm

      Maddy, I just watched the 1940s Lord of the Rings (gangster style) on YouTube. It’s quite brilliant. I love it when the thugs beat up “Frodo” in the alley with the message, “Stay out of Mordor.”

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      • maddylovesherclassicfilms

        October 17, 2017 at 3:02 am

        LOL. Glad you liked it. I came across it a few years back, and it really made me giggle. The “stay out of Mordor” bit is classic. I also think Peter Lorre as Gollum is an inspired piece of casting 😉

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  4. The Animation Commendation

    October 16, 2017 at 6:57 am

    Well if the films were being made in the 2000s still, I honestly wanted Gregory Peck as Gandalf! Imagine him in a white beard at that age with his distinctive voice!

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  5. MovieCritic

    October 18, 2017 at 10:16 pm

    Oh my word! That would be a great cast! I especially love your ideas for Errol Flynn (Thinking Robin Hood, he might be a good Legolas, but you just want him to love Olivia de Havilland so Aragorn is probably better.), Olivia, Bette Davis, Basil Rathbone, and James Cagney as a hobbit! Nice thinking!!! I would have loved this version!

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    • christinawehner

      October 19, 2017 at 10:48 am

      I know, I so wish we could see it! I agree; it would be so wrong if Errol Flynn didn’t get to play opposite Olivia de Havilland, it would almost be distracting. 🙂


  6. In The Good Old Days Of Classic Hollywood

    October 19, 2017 at 3:42 am

    Hey Christina. I’m just checking in to remind you about the Katharine Hepburn and Spencer Tracy Blogathon. Yesterday was the last day, but I always accept late entries.

    Liked by 1 person

    • christinawehner

      October 19, 2017 at 10:49 am

      Hi Crystal – I’m so sorry to miss the blogathon!! Thanks for checking up. Things got a little out of hand, alas. Would it be too late if I wrote it up tomorrow morning, though?

      Liked by 1 person

  7. Realweegiemidget Reviews

    November 20, 2017 at 5:49 am

    Hi there, love this post and so wish could have seen this is it were the movie with such a fantastically cast cast!

    Liked by 1 person

    • christinawehner

      November 20, 2017 at 11:31 am


      Sometimes, I wish there were a means of alternate time travel, where one could travel back in time to see the past of one’s own imagination…and then we could see movies like this! 🙂

      Liked by 1 person

      • Realweegiemidget Reviews

        November 20, 2017 at 11:33 am

        That would be fantastic, maybe just maybe one day that would be possible, then I could be a much nicer Daisy Buchanan to Leonardo DiCaprio’s Gatsby.

        Liked by 1 person

        • christinawehner

          November 20, 2017 at 11:35 am

          I actually haven’t seen that film yet. Was DiCaprio pretty good in the role, then?

          Someone should definitely invent such a means for us to be able to construct the movies of our choice!


  8. cottagecaretakersyahoocom

    December 19, 2017 at 7:59 pm

    Thank you so much for participating in my “Great Breening Blogathon.” Here is the final roster, in which I compiled all the articles written: Your article was a huge addition to my participants; I appreciate the time and energy you put into it.

    By the way, I would like to invite you to join our next blogathon, “The Singing Sweethearts Blogathon,” which is described at the bottom of the final roster. We could use your talent in this blogathon!

    Yours Hopefully,

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